This is a special radio presentation from WUOT: "Two Flags, One City: Knoxville's Civil War". I'm Matt Shafer Powell.
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "Little Rose is Gone")
Sunday morning, November 29th, 1863. The pre-dawn light that's washing away the cold, rainy darkness over Knoxville reveals movement beyond the ditches that surround Fort Sanders. Confederate soldiers--nearly 4000 of them, some dressed in the butternut and gray of the South, many more in the rags that served as clothing in this poor man's army-- creep toward the ditches, their muskets and bayonets at the ready for a raid that will forever change the face of the city and its people.
(SFX: Cannon shots followed by musket fire which increases in intensity)
The guns at Fort Sanders begin to rain fire on the soldiers below. The soldiers move forward as best they can, picking their way through the obstacles placed there by the Union Army, finally charging into a deep ditch. For twenty minutes, there's pandemonium, the acrid smell of gunpowder, gunfire and explosions come from the fort above them. Desperate, the soldiers claw at the icy wall on the other side of the ditch; they are trapped, and there amidst the panic, some are forced into the paralyzing realization that they are going to die there. The battle rages on for twenty endless minutes.
(FINAL CANNON SHOT)
(MX STINGS CLEAN)
There's a certain irony to the fact that the pivotal battle of
Knoxville's Civil War took only twenty minutes after several years
of political turmoil
and personal betrayal. But the story of Knoxville's Civil War is one charged with
irony, as well as contradiction, treachery and deep, bitter divisions.
(SETUP AT ETHM)
At the East Tennessee Historical Society Museum on Knoxville's
Market Street, visitors to the Civil War exhibit are greeted
with a display that catches many
of them off-guard. Michael Toomey is the Staff Historian
Michael Toomey 6A :36
a Southern state
(A lot of folks do come into the museum expecting to see pretty much all
Confederate artifacts. And that's not unreasonable---Tennessee was of course
a Confederate state. But East Tennessee was different. East Tennessee was largely
pro-Union and so when they come back here and see that the first large object
they see is a large United States flag and there's a large picture of a Unionist
supporter and there's Union uniforms. All these things give a very different
picture, perhaps, than what they expect to see when they come into a Civil
War exhibit in a Southern state.)
On the wall facing these Union artifacts, you'll find a Confederate
Battle Flag and several other Southern relics. The display articulates
an important
point about East Tennessee: While it may have been considered largely Unionist,
it was anything but consolidated
Michael Toomey 5B :26
on both sides
(One of the things we like to point out in our Civil War exhibit is that
East Tennessee was badly divided. And so we have the Union artifacts on one
side and the Confederate artifacts on the other and we think that point will
be very clear to the visitors as they go through that East Tennessee was badly
divided. We try to show that this was a conflict that was fought with the same
amount of sincerity and intensity and loyalty and ferocity on both sides.)
The complexity of the region's Civil War loyalties has been known
to create confusion among tourists. But also among East Tennesseans
themselves, especially
when it comes to their heritage. One such East Tennessean is Dot Kelly, the
Preservation Chairman for the Knoxville Civil War Roundtable and a frequent
speaker on the Civil War in Knoxville
Dot Kelly 2A :42
was a Yankee!
(I was born and raised in Knoxville and always thought of myself as a Southern
lady and once I read "Gone with the Wind" when I was about 13, I was convinced
that I was the Southern Belle---I was Scarlet O'Hara incarnate. And I was living
in Atlanta many years later and came home and my mother says, "Oh, I have found
my Grandpa's discharge papers!" So we went rushing out to her cousin's house
to see the discharge papers. And I very reverently unfolded this yellowed piece
of paperyou knowand what should meet my eyes on the top of the
paper but a big eagle and the words "United States of America". I discovered
I was a Yankee!)
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "Camp Chase")
One of the most important developments in the history of Knoxville
came in the late 1850's. That's when a railroad was built that
connected Knoxville
with Virginia to the North and Georgia to the South
Dot Kelly 3A :33
also Northwards
(In the early 50's, Knoxville and East Tennessee was primarily agricultural,
but fairly isolated. Roads were fairly poor and the railroad did not arrive
until the late '50s. So early in the 50's, you're going to find that there's
not much contact with the outside world. However, once the railroads arrived,
the farming industry developed very well and began shipping farm produce to
all of the South and also Northwards.)
Michael Toomey 7A :35
orientation as well
(The railroad that went through East Tennessee was vital to a lot of economic
development, both in the Valley and to the North and to the South. But what
it did was to create in a sense a lot of new communities. It tended to connect
the people in the Valley more directly with Virginia and the Deep South. By
1860, you begin to see those distinctions made pretty clearthat there
are two different perspectives in East Tennessee in terms of economic orientation
particularly, but that's going to transfer into political orientation as well.)
Seymour 3A :21
from the start
(Most of what you would call the upper crust Knoxvillians were generally
Confederate sympathizers and most of the general population that didn't have
a lot of money and wealth were probably Union sympathizers. So it was divided
from the start)
Digby Seymour is the author of the book "Divided Loyalties: Fort Sanders and
the Civil War in East Tennessee"
Seymour 4A :35
their lives worse
(The mood at the beginning of the war depended on whether you were a citizen
of the city of Knoxville or you were just a citizen of Knox County and the
surrounding area. The citizens inside of Knoxville---the merchant class---were
primarily Confederate and the smaller people---small in wealth, I guess you'd
say---they tended to stick with the Union, because they didn't need any changes
to make their lives worse)
East Tennessee native and University of Washington history professor
Tracy McKenzie is the author of "Lincolnites and Rebels: The Civil War in Parson
Brownlow's Knoxville"
Tracy McKenzie 2A :15
the Confederacy
(I think you could safely say that for East Tennessee as a whole, the majority
was always clearly Unionist. That would be in contrast to Knoxville itself,
where by the end of the summer of 1861, the majority was clearly now supporting
the Confederacy.)
Michael Toomey 8A :37
on slave labor
(The main thing to point to I suspect would be the institution of slavery.
Slavery existed throughout East Tennessee. Every East Tennessee county had
slavery to some extent. But the bigger question I think to askto what
extent were those counties dependent on the institution of slavery? That's
what varies from mountain to valley. In the valley, they were fairlyin
some cases-- fairly dependent on the institution of slavery. But that was not---even
in the valleysthe norm. Certainly, the further away you got from the
flatlands that were suitable for large scale agriculture---the further away
you got from those, the less agriculture depended on slave labor.)
Stephen Ash is a professor of History at the University of Tennessee
in Knoxville
Stephen Ash 2A :22
disagreed with that
(The people in East Tennessee felt themselves in many ways alienated from
the rest of the South. And when secession came, when most of the people in
the South decided in 1860---after Lincoln's election in 1860---that they wanted
to break away from the Union and establish their own Confederacy, most East
Tennesseans disagreed with that.)
Digby Seymour 10A :26
things like that
(This is a mountainous area, hills, not suitable for big plantations so
there was no need to have a bunch of slaves doing all your work, and Middle
Tennessee is half and half and then West Tennessee is typical cotton country
and so it was a divided state according to the amount of hills there were and
rivers and things like that.)
Tracy McKenzie 3A :27
to the Union
(East Tennesseans had for a long time thought of themselves as a stepchild---in
a sense---within Tennessee as a whole. Poorer than Middle and Western Tennessee.
And I'm firmly convinced that much of the sort of reflexive suspicion of secession
was as much as anything a suspicion of the Deep South and of the rest of the
state, much more than it was a kind of immediate commitment to the Union.)
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "Seneca Square Dance")
On December 20th, 1860, South Carolina became the
first state to secede from the Union. In the six months that
followed, Tennesseans engaged
in a furious debate over secession. Knoxville became a hornet's nest of political
activity, a focal point for the debate. Jack Neely is a columnist for the Metropulse
weekly, and the author of several books on Knoxville history
Jack Neely S 5A :25
as Knoxville did
(Churches were divided, houses were divided, almost every square foot of
town was divided. You had all these different points of view on the war. You
had almost every kind of point of war that there was in America. I don't know
if there were many cities in America that had that kind of mixture to the extent
that Knoxville did.)
Tracy McKenzie 4A :30
of each other
(When I think about the divisions within Knoxville as the Civil War is erupting,
there is an image that is so intriguing about the nature of the conflict, that
I've never been able to erase it. In early June of 1861, a Knoxville craftsman
actually did a kind of pencil sketch of Gay Street at a time when there were
effectively simultaneous Confederate and Union rallies within a couple blocks
of each other.)
Dot Kelly 6B :22
particular army
(On one end of Gay Street, the Federal flag is on a tall pole and you have
the civilians standing listening to a recruiter for the Federal forces and
only about two blocks away you see a Confederate flag flying and you have men
lined up there listening to the Confederate recruiter recruiting for their
particular army)
Jack Neely S 2A :30
in Knoxville
(Charles Douglas was one of the most conspicuous Union supporters of the
early days of the war. He was known to walk around downtown, around Gay Street
especially, hoisting an American flag and banging a drum and chanting pro-Unionist
slogans. Apparently, the newly recruited Confederates had enough of him. Some
of them were staying in the Lamar House Hotel, and shot him, apparently from
the windows of the hotel across the street from where he was. He wasI
guessthe first casualty of the Civil War in Knoxville.)
Another of the most conspicuous antagonists in Knoxville was "Parson" Brownlow.
Brownlow was a minister, a staunch Unionist and the publisher of a newspaper
known as the Knoxville Whig
Digby Seymour 7A :21
very one-sided
(He had very strong opinions and he was well educated and had a very loyal
following, and he was very vocal and very opinionated. He would not give in
or become neutral on anything. He was very one-sided.)
Jack Neely 4A :28
tongue in cheek wit
(Parson Brownlow was an interesting personality during the Civil War. He
was kind of like nearest equivalent I can think of as the radio talk show host
of his day. He loved incendiary hate speech and he was known for his razor
wit that didn't spare anybody. To read his stuff now, you sometimes laugh out
loud. And although you get the impression he was rather stern in demeanor,
he was also very, very accomplished in tongue-in-cheek wit.)
But Unionists like Parson Brownlow certainly weren't without
their Confederate counterparts
Jack Neely 12A :32
hated him
(I think the most interesting and unusual example was John Mitchell who
lived here for several years before the war. He was an Irish revolutionary
who made his way to Knoxville in the middle 1850's and began espousing this
idea that secessionism was the expression of Irish Nationalism in America.
He published a weekly called the Southern Citizen which promoted this kind
of unusual mixture of beliefs---he believed that abolitionism was an Anglo-Saxon
plot against the Celtic people. Parson Brownlow absolutely hated him.)
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "McClanahan's March")
In a February 1861 referendum, Tennesseans rejected the idea
of secession. But in April---after the war began---Abraham Lincoln
put out a call for Tennesseans
to join the Union Army. Many of those Tennesseans who were undecided about
the issue reacted defensively to the idea of taking up arms against fellow
Southerners. Another referendum followed and in a landslide, secession prevailed.
On June 8th, Tennessee became the eleventh and final state to join
the Confederate States of America
Dot Kelly 9A :21
of 1861
(This was such an important area---early. In fact, before Tennessee really
seceded, the governor of Tennessee sent troops into East Tennessee to make
sure that there were no problems with the Unionists. So East Tennessee was
basically occupied territory by the Confederates early on from May of 1861.)
Stephen Ash 3A :23
the war began
(The Confederate authorities and the secessionists in Knoxville decided
to go easy on the Unionists like Brownlow. Brownlow was even permitted to continue
publishing his newspaper all through the summer and into the fall of 1861.
Still cranking out Unionist editorials there. His was in fact the only newspaper
in the whole Confederacy that continued to take a Union stand after the war
began.)
Michael Toomey 10B :24
that at first
(They tried at first what you would call a rather benign occupation of East
Tennessee. They understood that Unionist support was strong, but they also
felt that given time, it might either fade away---or perhaps---if it didn't
come around to Confederate support, they might at least just shut up and be
quiet. Intimidation might ultimately have to be used. But they didn't want
to think like that at first.)
Stephen Ash 5A :12
of the region
(Then there was an incident in late 1861, in which some Unionist guerilla
bands sabotaged the railroad bridges through East Tennessee and this provoked
a Confederate crackdown on the Unionists of the region.)
Dot Kelly :37
the area afterwards
(One of the gentlemen from upper East Tennessee who was Reverend Carter
from Carter County went to Washington to talk with none other than Lincoln
himself, General McClellan and also Secretary of State Seward and in this discussion,
he proposed that Union people from the areas around the major bridges all along
this line from Bristol to Bridgeport, Alabama would be willing to attempt to
burn these bridges if they could be assured that the Federal troops would march
in and secure the area afterwards.)
Michael Toomey 11A :21
so to speak
(They carried out their end of the bargain. They attacked a number of bridges
along the East Tennessee-Virginia and East Tennessee-Georgia Railroad. And
several were in fact destroyed. But for reasons that are fairly unclear even
today, the invasion never took place. So that left those bridge burners kind
of high and dry, so to speak.)
Dot Kelly 13A :22
were sent to Tuscaloosa
(They were immediately---of course---attacked by Confederates, they were
driven back into the mountains and eventually, many of them had to move north.
Some of them were captured, some of the bridge burners were hanged, two in
Greeneville and three in Knoxville and many of the ones who were even suspected
of bridge burning were sent to Tuscaloosa.)
In the crackdown that followed, Parson Brownlow and other outspoken
Unionists left town. Those who stayed moved underground, often
keeping their loyalties
to themselves. But East Tennessee was never far from Abraham Lincoln's mind. "My
distress," he wrote, "is that our friends in East Tennessee are being hanged
and driven to despair, and even now are thinking of taking Rebel arms for the
sake of protection. In this, we lose the most valuable stake we have in the
South."
Stephen Ash 6A :25
the Union underway
(Abraham Lincoln himself was particularly interested in the fate of East
Tennessee because he was hoping to use this solid base of Unionism here in
the Confederacy as sort of a platform to reconstruct the South politically
once the war was over. He was very, very anxious that a Union army get into
East Tennessee, liberate these Unionists and get the process of reconstructing
the state---getting it back in the Union underway.)
Dot Kelly 21A :22
the Confederate arch
(Lincoln was aware that the local population---which was so strongly Unionwas
important politically--but also militarily---the railroad which runs from Bristol
to Chattanooga through the state of Tennessee was extremely important. It was
so important that one of the Richmond papers called it the Keystone to the
Confederate Arch)
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "Stony Point")
Despite Lincoln's interest in East Tennessee, it would be another
two years before the Union Army would find its way there. In
September of 1863, Union
General Ambrose Burnside entered Knoxville to find that the Confederates had
left only a few days before his arrival, gone to join General Braxton Bragg
near Chickamauga Creek, just south of Chattanooga
Stephen Ash 7A :17
and tyranny
(He was greeted as a welcome hero and the Unionists in East Tennessee and
in Knoxville in particular cheered him as his troops marched in. They had been
waiting for well over two years for this liberation from what they saw as Confederate
despotism and tyranny.)
Tracy McKenzie 6A :18
the Union Army
(By the time that Burnside's Army reaches Knoxville, word has been spreading
across the region for several days. And from all accounts, there was a major
effort by Unionists in the countryside to make their way to Knoxville, where
they're most likely to be able to intersect the path of the Union Army)
Dot Kelly 15A :28
arrived in Knoxville
(We had some ingenious people in East Tennessee. They laid bonfires on the
tops of the ridges from here to the outlying areas. And when the Federals liberated
East Tennessee, these bonfires were lit from ridge top to ridge top to ridge
top, notifying the outlying counties that the Federals had at last arrived
in Knoxville)
If the sight of Union soldiers walking the streets of Knoxville
was good news for Lincoln and for the Unionists living in East
Tennessee, it certainly wasn't
good news for everyone. Confederate sympathizers ---especially those in Knoxville---watched
in horror as their city was taken without a fight. One such Confederate was
a woman by the name of Ellen Renshaw House
Teresa Smith 2A :10
Cumberland Avenue
(Ellen House was a young lady who was actually born in Savannah, Georgia.
Her family moved to Knoxville in 1860 and they lived over on Cumberland Avenue.)
Teresa Smith is President of the local United Daughters of the
Confederacy-a
chapter named after Ellen House. Smith says House was a strong, determined
woman---a Rebel who had no intention of keeping her loyalties secret. Beginning
in 1863, House kept a detailed diary a valuable record of what it was
like for a Confederate living in Union-occupied Knoxville
Teresa Smith 3A :35
more than enough
(The entry in her diary when the Union soldiers started marching into town
to me is classic. Quote: "I think it is outrageous. The Yankees are here! Just
think, here, here in Knoxville! Walked in without the least resistance on our
part. And the good-for-nothing things have such comfortable quarters. How I
hate them! Four came here today and we had to give them something to eat. That
was too much! After dreaming of our boys to wake and find the Yankees heretoo
bad, too bad. More came in today. I don't know how many there are or care.
To know that they are here is quite enough and more than enough.)
But the Confederates were not gone for good. After a decisive
victory at Chickamauga, Braxton Bragg's Rebels chased the Yankees
into Chattanooga. While Bragg laid
siege to Chattanooga, he sent legendary Confederate General James Longstreet
and his 17-thousand soldiers north to re-capture Knoxville
Michael Toomey 14A :21
to Longstreet
(When Bragg was in the process of laying siege to Chattanooga, he got into
a bit of squabble with several of his generals, one of whom was Longstreet.
He could deal with the rest of them because he had the support of President
Jefferson Davis. Longstreet's a different story because he's James Longstreet.
I mean, you can't just say shut up and be quiet to James Longstreet.)
Stephen Ash 11A :17
Union troops there
(They were hoping that Longstreet could destroy Burnside's Army, surround
it, perhaps even force it to surrender after it was surrounded, and that if
this could be done quickly again, Longstreet could then return to Chattanooga,
and---with the rest of Bragg's troops---defeat the Union troops there.)
In Knoxville, Longstreet found a city surrounded by several earthworks
forts---forts that had been started by the Confederates and were
being feverishly completed
by the Yankees. After a series of small-scale battles on the outskirts of town,
Burnside retreated back to Knoxville. And Longstreet followed him
Stephen Ash 12A :28
as Fort Sanders
(Longstreet puts Knoxville under siege but does not want to get involved
in a long siege because he can't keep his army occupied for that long, so he
begins looking for a way to take the city quickly. He begins probing for a
weak point in the city's fortifications and he looks here and he looks there
and finally, he and his generals believe that they have found a weak spot in
the Federal lines and that is what is known to the Union troops as Fort Sanders.)
Tracy McKenzie 8A :37
Confederate forces
(Fort Sanders was an earthen defense. The labor details had simply been
scooping up earth and scooping up earth to build an earthen wall that probably
was in the neighborhood of 10-to-12 feet high. In front of that earthen wall,
they dug a trench, probably between 6 and 8 feet deep. In front of that trench,
they took sharpened sticks and put them in the ground at forty-five degree
angles, they took telegraph wire and strung it from tree stump to tree stump
to try to slow down any attack from Confederate forces)
Stephen Ash 14A :34
of the fort
(So the idea was that Confederate troops would attack right before dawn---actually
in the dark---and scale the parapet and overwhelm the fort and they massed
four brigades---and this was probably a total of about 4000 troops. They spent
the night within 150 yards of the fort.)
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "Little Rose is Gone")
(SFX UP: Cannon and musket fire, increasing in intensity)
Just before dawn on November 29th, Longstreet launched his attack
Dot Kelly 19A :20
it is icy
(The men pitch headlong into the ditch, some of them, of course, jumping
into the ditch. And the 4000 men are sure that they are going to be able to
scale this wall. They're really surprised when they discover that this ditch
is 6-8 feet deep and they're looking up at a parapet that's 20 foot tall. Plus,
it is icy.)
Michael Toomey 15B :15
climb up there
(So once they got in that ditch, they had to claw their way up the wall
then. And to make matters even worse, it was very, very cold that morning,
and the Union forces had poured water down the embankment, which meant it was
virtually impossible to climb up there.)
Stephen Ash 13A :16
in large numbers
(They got into the bottom of the ditch, found that the parapet was much
higher than they thought, were reduced to trying to climb up it by climbing
up on the shoulders of their own men and only a handful of Confederates even
got to the top of the parapet. Meanwhile, they were being shot down in large
numbers.)
Dot Kelly 20A :25
the troops
(And in the ditch, the men suddenly are hearing blasts going off. They at
first thought perhaps this was their own artillery which had lost its range
and was firing on them. But actually, it is the Union captain who was in charge
of the artillery. Herealizing what was going to happen---had cut fuses
short and was throwing over his own artillery rounds into the ditch, where
they exploded among the troops)
Digby Seymour 8A :27
just a massacre
(The soldiers who were in the ditch that couldn't get over on to the fort
because it was too slippery and they were being shot at, they couldn't go either
way because the following Confederate troops pushed in there, thinking that
probably the ditch was empty and they would be the next wave. But they all
just became one big mass. They couldn't go forward and they couldn't go back.
There was no way to go sideways. So it was just a massacre.)
(CANNON SHOT)
MX: Jim Taylor "Bonaparte Crosses the Rhine"
It was a massacre that lasted twenty minutes. One of the Union
soldiers at Fort Sanders later wrote: "The ditch---in places---was almost full of them
piled one on top of the other. They were brave men, most of them Georgians.
I would give one of the wounded a drink as quick as anybody if I had it. That
is about the only thing they ask for when first wounded. But at the same time,
I wish the whole Southern Confederacy was in that ditch in the same predicament." Meanwhile,
a Confederate with the 60th Alabama Regiment wrote: "Among the many
inexpressibly sad days of our military career, no member of the regiment will,
I am sure, fail to recognize this, the 29th Day of November 1863,
as one of the most sad. All through that dismal day the words were ever recurring---'These
are they who have passed through great tribulation'."
(MX STINGS OUT)
In the Battle of Fort Sanders, more than 800 Confederate soldiers
were killed, wounded or taken captive. During that same twenty
minutes, the Union Army reported
five killed and eight wounded.
Four days later, the Confederates left Knoxville never
to return. The battle and its aftermath left those who supported
the Confederacy with an uncertain
future, having to face the retribution of Union soldiers and their supporters.
On December 5, 1863, Ellen House wrote this entry in her diary:
Teresa Smith 4A :20
I was dying
(Everybody says this morning that Longstreet has left. I don't and won't
believe it, though the thought that it might be true almost kills me. God grant
it is not so. It is so. When I first knew it to be true, I felt as though I
was choking. I could scarcely breathe. It was just the way I felt one night
last summer when I thought I was dying.)
Ellen House stayed in Knoxville for another five months, suddenly
an outcast living in a house occupied by Yankee officers. But
she never relinquished her
Confederate sympathies, often sneaking past Union soldiers to deliver food
and clothing to Confederate prisoners. Eventually, she was banished from Knoxville
and didn't return until after the war. In the meantime, Union forces in Chattanooga
were able to defeat the Confederates there---an outcome that may have been
different if Longstreet's troops had been in Chattanooga, rather than Knoxville.
The Federal victory at Chattanooga opened the way for a Union general named
William Tecumseh Sherman to make his infamous "march to the sea".
(SFX: TRAFFIC SOUNDS)
(MX: Jim Taylor "Bonaparte Crosses the Rhine" creeps up during next graph)
These days, there's little to remind someone of the bloodshed
that took place on that cold November day. The area where Fort
Sanders once stood is now an
urban neighborhood--- home to several apartments and rental properties---many
occupied by students at the University of Tennessee. There, are however, a
handful of markers and monuments. And beyond that, an almost intangible sense
that the divisions that defined Knoxville during the Civil War have not completely
evaporated over time...
Jack Neely 11A :27
ancestors were
(In some ways, I think there's kind of a "Born again" resentment among small
numbers of people---you know, descendents of soldiers on one side or the other
who are sometimes more fiercely resentful of---mostly of the Union side---than
their ancestors were.)
Tracy McKenzie 11A :55
national problem
(Southerners have been re-defining themselves and their history in response
to developments of the recent past. In particular, I think the civil rights
movement of the 1950's and 60's, the movement toward court-ordered integration
and so on, from that moment in time, caused an awful lot of Southerners to
begin to close ranks and to think of themselves as Southerners first and foremost
who were under attack from external interference.)
Teresa Smith 5A :30
place in history
(I think a lot of the problems we have is because people want to judge people
in that day and time by our standards today. And you cannot do that. They thought
they were doing the right thing. Both sides thought they were in God's will.
They both thought they were fighting for the Lord, with Him on their side.
Everything about them was different. Their values and things were different
from today. So it's not fair to judge them on today's standards. You have to
leave them in their place in history.)
Michael Toomey 16 A :31
it was very tragic
(There was a war here. And although there were larger battles fought elsewhere
and there were greater campaigns fought elsewhere, for East Tennesseans, this
was the Civil War -this was their experience--and it was very personal,
it was very bitter and in some cases, it was very tragic.)
(MX Stings out)
(MX UP: Jim Taylor "McClanahan's March")
"Two Flags, One City: Knoxville's Civil War was produced by Matt Shafer Powell.
Guests on the program were---in order of appearance---Michael Toomey, Dot Kelly,
Digby Seymour, Tracy McKenzie, Stephen Ash, Jack Neely, and Teresa Smith. Additional
thanks to the East Tennessee Historical Society, Sheila Hudson, Ken Smith and
Shane Rhyne. The music used in "Two Flags, One City" was arranged and produced
by Jim Taylor. More information on Jim Taylor's Music of the Civil War series
can be found at Jim-and-Sheila-dot-com. "Two Flags, One City" was produced for
WUOT, Knoxville.

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